约瑟夫·奈:《富兰克林·罗斯福与第二次世界大战》
本视频Carnegie Council 录制,哈佛大学的约瑟夫·奈提出了一个关于第二次世界大战的反事实假设:如果罗斯福不是总统,情况会如何?
该片段摘自一场题为《总统领导力与“美国时代”的开创》的公共事务讲座。
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富兰克林-罗斯福在 1933 年上任时没有任何外交政策议程。他正确地将重点放在了经济大萧条上。他考虑的是国内政治。1936年的大选也是如此。
1938 年,在慕尼黑协定和德国水晶之夜之后,罗斯福改变了看法。他认定希特勒将对美国构成威胁,美国必须对希特勒采取一些行动,而这将使我们卷入欧洲。但是,每当他温和地试图说服人们相信这一点,或者发表演讲暗示这一点时,比如他那篇著名的关于西班牙内战的《隔离演说》,都会引起政治团体的强烈反应,他总是很快就退缩了。
因此,罗斯福看到了问题所在,但正如他对自己的一位亲密顾问所说:"如果你是民主国家的领导者,而你却瞻前顾后,无人跟随,你该怎么办?"
罗斯福对此的回答是,希望事件能够教育美国人民。他没有华丽的辞藻。请记住,罗斯福曾在与国内经济有关的问题上发表过精彩的"炉边谈话",在这方面非常娴熟。但当他在外交政策上尝试时,却行不通了。
So Roosevelt tries to engineer some things which will get the Americans into the war. For example, there is a famous incident in which an American destroyer, the Greer, has an encounter with a German U-boat, and Roosevelt says to the American people something that was a complete lie: "The U-boat attacked the Greer." In fact, we know now that theGreer fired first. But even that's not enough to get the Americans to change their position.
So what Roosevelt does is he makes preparations for the circumstances in which public opinion may change. So we institute a draft, we begin to build defense spending. We have lend-lease to Britain to help Britain stay alive, which Roosevelt justifies, not as a response to Hitler or some grand threat. But he justifies it as if your neighbor's house is on fire and he has to borrow your garden hose, you say, "Sure, borrow the hose and give it back when the fire is out"—which is not a lie, but it certainly is not an accurate description of what he had in mind.
In those circumstances, then Roosevelt, having failed in all his efforts to get us into World War II, is saved by the attack on Pearl Harbor. It's arguable that if Japan had not attacked Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt could not have gotten the Americans into World War II in Europe.
Then you could say, "Well, wait a minute. You've just said Roosevelt was important. But here's a man who couldn't accomplish what he set out to do and he basically accomplishes it by accident. Then how do you call him important?"
Let me give you an example with my counterfactual exercise. Imagine that, as Philip Roth speculates in his novel The Plot Against America, in 1940 the Republican Party had nominated Charles Lindbergh instead of Wendell Willkie, an internationalist. Lindbergh was a staunch isolationist and an admirer of Germany. And imagine that you had that type of president, a President Lindbergh, when Japan attacked at Pearl Harbor.
Would it have made a difference? I think probably yes. First of all, you might not have had Pearl Harbor. But if you had Pearl Harbor, you would have seen American policy focused on the Pacific, not on Europe. If that had occurred, the world in 1945 might have been not bipolar, with the United States and Soviet Union as the grand superpower survivors of the war, but with a Europe that was divided between Stalin and Hitler, communist and fascist. With the United States in the Western Hemisphere and Japan, with its greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere, we would have seen a multipolar world.
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